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Title: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on January 29, 2010, 05:41:15 PM
Here is my problems:
1. I am a Ubuntu Newbee with very little knowledge
2. I have Ubuntu 9.04 installed and want to upgrade to 9.10
3. My Video card is not supported in 9.10 until now
4. I don't know if I should upgrade to 9.10 first or install ATI driver first
5. I don't know any of the terminal commands to install the 9.10 ATI driver

So basically I need step by step instructions including all terminal commands and steps to get a working 9.10, the driver I downloaded is called "ati-driver-installer-10-1-x86.x86_64.run" which I understand is for my 32bit system which is a Dell E510.
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on January 30, 2010, 10:06:48 PM
hi i have a nvida card but here are some way's of installing your's :
way 1
If the ATI driver is install and work's in 9:04 then it should  work in 9:10
but i would recommend that you use Ubuntu's inbuilt diver-installer  find it by going to:
1)System then admin
2) find hard-ware divers
3)open it up and it will tell you if it's installed or not
..... or you can go to the soft-ware center and click system
and find the ATI diver

or your way

From the the sound's of it you download a script  to run this
1)move it to your desktop
2) open up the the terminal
and  change to the desktop by typing :cd ~/Desktop

3) give it the right to run by typing :sudo chmod +x ati-driver-installer-10-1-x86.x86_64.run

4) run it by typing :sudo ./ati-driver-installer-10-1-x86.x86_64.run

tell me if it's work

r ember that sudo is root and you need to enter your password   and if your way does not work try this :http://ubuntugeek.com/forum/index.php/topic,34.0.html as it may need building.
 
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on January 30, 2010, 10:25:01 PM
hi i have a nvida card but here are some way's of installing your's :
way 1
If the ATI driver is install and work's in 9:04 then it should  work in 9:10
but i would recommend that you use Ubuntu's inbuilt diver-installer  find it by going to:
1)System then admin
2) find hard-ware divers
3)open it up and it will tell you if it's installed or not
..... or you can go to the soft-ware center and click system
and find the ATI diver

or your way

From the the sound's of it you download a script  to run this
1)move it to your desktop
2) open up the the terminal
and  change to the desktop by typing :cd ~/Desktop

3) give it the right to run by typing :sudo chmod +x ati-driver-installer-10-1-x86.x86_64.run

4) run it by typing :sudo ./ati-driver-installer-10-1-x86.x86_64.run

tell me if it's work

r ember that sudo is root and you need to enter your password   and if your way does not work try this :http://ubuntugeek.com/forum/index.php/topic,34.0.html as it may need building.

I am very confused. I tried the first method in Ubuntu 9.04 with no hardware drivers found. I then proceeded to method 2 and it installed. But now that I am installed I do not know if it works, I looked in hardware drivers again and it said none installed. I tried the command aticonfig in terminal and it said no driver found. I updated to 9.10 and everytime I try to install the driver it does everything in terminal and it starts the installer but freezes at the accept screen. It is a driver problem and I am stuck at what to do to get in running. The computer is useless as is. Is there a way to avoid the graphical interface as that is what is causing the freeze I can't even use update manager as it freezes also.

UPDATE: According to Synaptic Package Manager the driver is installed. When I go into terminal and type "aticonfig" I get a error no compatible hardware installed. My card is an ATI X300Gt which is listed as usable with the driver. I know it is a driver problem as I am getting screen garbage all over.

UPDATE 2: I think I have it working, at least it isn't crashing. I have one slight problem. After trying to install three times I have three folders on the desktop that are locked and I need to remove them. How do I unlock these files?
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on January 31, 2010, 03:47:03 PM
1) make sure you go to system- then admin and software source's - updates,next tick back port's refresh  and   
install any updates first.

2) it's sound as if the config files for the driver on the desktop
you could  make a folder in your home folder  called driver's  and change  to it when you install .

3) and you can install ubuntu tweak -http://ubuntu-tweak.com/downloads/and add the x-update source's   ( its good for lot's of thing's) this means once you've install the diver you will always be up to date !!!

4)  if you go system - preference's then appearance try turning on the effect's  to test if the diver is fully installed

hope it helps
Joseph 
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on January 31, 2010, 06:14:43 PM
1) make sure you go to system- then admin and software source's - updates,next tick back port's refresh  and   
install any updates first.

2) it's sound as if the config files for the driver on the desktop
you could  make a folder in your home folder  called driver's  and change  to it when you install .

3) and you can install ubuntu tweak -http://ubuntu-tweak.com/downloads/and add the x-update source's   ( its good for lot's of thing's) this means once you've install the diver you will always be up to date !!!

4)  if you go system - preference's then appearance try turning on the effect's  to test if the diver is fully installed

hope it helps
Joseph
Followed your directions and I then reinstalled the driver, and then rebooted. I went to appearance tab, but couldn't enable effects. I guess either I have the wrong driver or something else is wrong. At least it isn't crashing. I use it mostly for internet and file storage.
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on January 31, 2010, 10:08:05 PM
 1) you need to install compiz for full effects(http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-elements-for-compiz-fusion.html)

2)try installing the driver's from synaptic  this should make the kernel find the driver's  as you would like ( if your happy with it should be fine as it is)

2) if you installed ubuntu tweak and if your feeling bold you can  add the edges  x-update source's ( will give even more x-update's)  refresh and update your pc
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on January 31, 2010, 11:32:17 PM
1) you need to install compiz for full effects(http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-elements-for-compiz-fusion.html)

2)try installing the driver's from synaptic  this should make the kernel find the driver's  as you would like ( if your happy with it should be fine as it is)

2) if you installed ubuntu tweak and if your feeling bold you can  add the edges  x-update source's ( will give even more x-update's)  refresh and update your pc

I installed Compiz but for some strange reason the hardware is not recognized. I have a Dell 510 with the ATI 300GT Video card. I am at a loss as to why it doesn't install.

When I used the command aticonfig to configure the driver it came back with ""No compatible hardware found" I have no idea what is causing this.








Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 01, 2010, 08:50:05 AM
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  i've found some Documentation how to install your driver -work you have to make it's a DEBS install file
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 01, 2010, 12:05:42 PM
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  i've found some Documentation how to install your driver -work you have to make it's a DEBS install file

According to what I read in this article the X300 Radeon cards are not covered. So this driver is different than the other. No I am really confused.
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 01, 2010, 01:17:56 PM
no it's the same sricpt file so it can be applyed to your's
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 01, 2010, 01:28:08 PM
no it's the same sricpt file so it can be applyed to your's

The first step where you load the driver using Hardware Drivers, none are found. The application does not either see that drivers are available or see the card.
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 01, 2010, 05:47:05 PM
hi
found what you need  for kernel to find your card
go synaptic and check the  Kernel Headers ending with 17/18 are installed .
also make sure you have : 
XFree86-Mesa-libGL
• libstdc++
• libgcc
• XFree86-libs
• fontconfig
• freetype
• zlib
• gcc

all this is found in the Installer Instructions on ATI (http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.21&lang=English)
you could try the Custom install 
update -
you need to run a config scripted see http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/53987-ati-radeon-x300-driver-problems.html and http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_beginner_books/debian_linux_desktop_survival_guide/ATI_Radeon.shtml


Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 01, 2010, 05:56:46 PM
hi
found what you need  for kernel to find your card
go synaptic and check the  Kernel Headers ending with 17/18 are installed .
also make sure you have : 
XFree86-Mesa-libGL
• libstdc++
• libgcc
• XFree86-libs
• fontconfig
• freetype
• zlib
• gcc

all this is found in the Installer Instructions on ATI (http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.21&lang=English)
you could try the Custom install 
update -
you need to run a config scripted see http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/53987-ati-radeon-x300-driver-problems.html and http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_beginner_books/debian_linux_desktop_survival_guide/ATI_Radeon.shtml

j

I don't see linux Headers 17/18 only I have installed Kernel 2.6.31-18. Also some of the other files are not listed in Synaptic. I was able to install the driver, but it will not let me configure it. I have tried the commands listed in the second post no luck. I even tried aticonfig and comes up with no compatible device found.
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 01, 2010, 06:09:50 PM
 if you kernel is 18 look for Headers 18 !!
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 01, 2010, 06:20:11 PM
if you kernel is 18 look for Headers 18 !!

I have the following kernel headers installed "2.6.32-18-generic 2.6.31-18-55"
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 01, 2010, 06:41:00 PM
 follow every-thing  in my last post and it should work better .Can suspend you pc ?
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 01, 2010, 07:09:45 PM
follow every-thing  in my last post and it should work better .Can suspend you pc ?

I tried everything posted with the driver is installed, but it can't configure. I guess it is time to give up and maybe buy a different brand Video card.
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 01, 2010, 09:01:31 PM
 I would only do that if you need a fully working  card but you could wait for ubuntu 10:04 or get it !!(http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2/https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/TechnicalOverview) it's same as if their are  trying to fix some ATI issues  , try ubuntu forums(http://ubuntuforums.org/) for a last change  :'(
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 01, 2010, 09:08:56 PM
 is an open driver not ATI's official-http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 01, 2010, 10:08:54 PM
is an open driver not ATI's official-http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page

Thanks Joe, but the same result. The driver installs properly but doesn't work. I followed the included instructions to the letter. As I said before there are a few files listed that are not available via synaptic.

XFree86-Mesa-libgl (can't find)
libstdc++6 (I Have)
libgcc1 (I Have)
XFree86.libs (Can't Find)
libfreetype6 (I Have)
Freetype (Can't Find)
zlib (Can't Find)
zlibg-dev (I Have)

As you can see I can't find some files and others are different.
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 02, 2010, 09:03:02 AM
you need to enable multi verse
all go to software sources  and ubuntu software  .

for the first one type XFree86
look at the list and fine the one ending in Mesa-libg
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 02, 2010, 12:05:38 PM
you need to enable multi verse
all go to software sources  and ubuntu software  .

for the first one type XFree86
look at the list and fine the one ending in Mesa-libg

Multi-verse is enabled it has been from the start, and I can't find the ones listed, as they don't show up in the search.
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 02, 2010, 04:37:11 PM
are you using the quick search at the top ?
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 02, 2010, 04:46:42 PM
are you using the quick search at the top ?

Yes I also tried the search from the Edit menu.
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 02, 2010, 05:33:15 PM
 go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to download them all  ;)
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 02, 2010, 06:15:40 PM
go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to download them all  ;)

I found the XFree86-Mesa but how do I install it?
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 02, 2010, 06:21:40 PM
download the DEBS file  :D
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 02, 2010, 06:23:59 PM
have you found the others ?
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 02, 2010, 06:32:02 PM
have you found the others ?

No I only found that one on a different site. I am not sure where they are located on the page you listed. I did a search and it came up with nothing.
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 02, 2010, 06:55:19 PM
i am just looking now
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 02, 2010, 06:58:29 PM
right you have:
XFree86-Mesa-libgl
libstdc++6
libgcc1
libstdc++6
libgcc1
zlibg-dev
and you do not have ?
XFree86.libs
go to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206285
Freetype
go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=karmic&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=Freetype
zlib
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=karmic&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=zlib+
zlibg-dev
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 02, 2010, 11:39:20 PM
right you have:
XFree86-Mesa-libgl
libstdc++6
libgcc1
libstdc++6
libgcc1
zlibg-dev
and you do not have ?
XFree86.libs
go to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206285
Freetype
go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=karmic&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=Freetype
zlib
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=karmic&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=zlib+
zlibg-dev

XFree86-mesa I still could not find a deb package.
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 03, 2010, 08:43:06 AM

http://linuxsoft.cern.ch/cern/slc30X...3.0-97.EL.html

http://dries.ulyssis.org/rpm/package...less-spec.html
 here you go
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 03, 2010, 12:15:05 PM

http://linuxsoft.cern.ch/cern/slc30X...3.0-97.EL.html

http://dries.ulyssis.org/rpm/package...less-spec.html
 here you go

I am not sure what you see in these links, but the links are broken.
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 03, 2010, 12:28:21 PM
  open up the temaninal and type :sudo apt-get install  XFree86-mesa
 once you have all the package's restart and reinstall the diver

are you 32bit's  and old is your card be ,you may have to wait for 10:04 .it could not be fully support in 9:10 ?
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 03, 2010, 01:01:54 PM
  open up the temaninal and type :sudo apt-get install  XFree86-mesa
 once you have all the package's restart and reinstall the diver

are you 32bit's  and old is your card be ,you may have to wait for 10:04 .it could not be fully support in 9:10 ?



I get an error "Can't find package XFree86-mesa"

How do I install a .rpm file?
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 03, 2010, 05:26:37 PM
you could try a rmp
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 03, 2010, 05:28:09 PM
you could try a rmp

I have no idea what you mean, I found XFree86-mesa-lib in an rpm package only.
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 03, 2010, 05:30:43 PM
sorry .rpm
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 03, 2010, 05:36:10 PM
you could install your diver by  using envyng
1)install it by going to the terminal & typing sudo apt-get install envyng-core envyng-qt

2)next Go to Applications->SystemTools->EnvyNG.
3)You can easily install the driver by select the recommended one and click on Apply

4)Alternatively,type this command in terminal:envyng -t
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 03, 2010, 05:45:46 PM
but rpm will not work because ubuntu is a DEB biased os -
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-rpm-files-in-ubuntu.html
you can convert it
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 03, 2010, 05:49:35 PM
you could install your diver by  using envyng
1)install it by going to the terminal & typing sudo apt-get install envyng-core envyng-qt

2)next Go to Applications->SystemTools->EnvyNG.
3)You can easily install the driver by select the recommended one and click on Apply

I installed the above an ran it. It showed the ATI/8.660-Oubuntu4 enabled, but an "X" next to compatible and "X" next to recommended.

4)Alternatively,type this command in terminal:envyng -t
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 03, 2010, 06:01:30 PM
but rpm will not work because ubuntu is a DEB biased os -
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-rpm-files-in-ubuntu.html
you can convert it

I think it is time to give up as that will not install. It is for i386.
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 03, 2010, 06:04:21 PM
 final  leg :
hope-fully  you now should have all the package's and you can reinstall your driver by:
1)using envyng
2) or using the shell script which you downloaded
3) or you could  wait for 10:04

just a summery so we know were we are ?
are you 32or64bit ?

Joe 
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 03, 2010, 06:06:25 PM
final  leg :
hope-fully  you now should have all the package's and you can reinstall your driver by:
1)using envyng
2) or using the shell script which you downloaded
3) or you could  wait for 10:04

I am on 32bit envyng didn't show a compatible driver the shell script didn't work so waiting is the only thing left. I hope 10.04 comes soon.

just a summery so we know were we are ?
are you 32or64bit ?

Joe
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 03, 2010, 06:07:05 PM
if your 64bit  then you will have problems   
i would wait for 10:04  ????
dont give up   :-\
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 03, 2010, 06:08:30 PM
if your 64bit  then you will have problems   
i would wait for 10:04  ????
dont give up   :-\

Thanks for all the help, I will now wait for 10:04 and see if it helps. How long do you think?
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 03, 2010, 06:09:50 PM
if you are 64bit see this :
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=368607
even if your pc is 64bit's your can install 32bits 
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joe12 on February 03, 2010, 06:12:21 PM
 you could install 10:04 when its a beta  , it will be alot more stable
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 03, 2010, 06:15:10 PM
you could install 10:04 when its a beta  , it will be alot more stable

I see the final date is April 2010. Not that far away. But as soon as it is out of Alpha and on Beta I will move up.
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: kronictokr on February 08, 2010, 11:00:38 PM
Here is my problems:
1. I am a Ubuntu Newbee with very little knowledge
2. I have Ubuntu 9.04 installed and want to upgrade to 9.10
3. My Video card is not supported in 9.10 until now
4. I don't know if I should upgrade to 9.10 first or install ATI driver first
5. I don't know any of the terminal commands to install the 9.10 ATI driver

So basically I need step by step instructions including all terminal commands and steps to get a working 9.10, the driver I downloaded is called "ati-driver-installer-10-1-x86.x86_64.run" which I understand is for my 32bit system which is a Dell E510.

i may be wrong about this, but if your running a 32bit system you shouldnt install the 64bit driver. ? what processor do you have?
Title: Re: Help needed with ATI driver and upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10
Post by: joelw135 on February 08, 2010, 11:28:51 PM
Here is my problems:
1. I am a Ubuntu Newbee with very little knowledge
2. I have Ubuntu 9.04 installed and want to upgrade to 9.10
3. My Video card is not supported in 9.10 until now
4. I don't know if I should upgrade to 9.10 first or install ATI driver first
5. I don't know any of the terminal commands to install the 9.10 ATI driver

So basically I need step by step instructions including all terminal commands and steps to get a working 9.10, the driver I downloaded is called "ati-driver-installer-10-1-x86.x86_64.run" which I understand is for my 32bit system which is a Dell E510.

i may be wrong about this, but if your running a 32bit system you shouldnt install the 64bit driver. ? what processor do you have?

I have a P4 3.0Ghz processor. But I was led to believe that is the drover for both 32 & 64. If I am wrong please send me to the correct one.